FeedCynic Against Ignorance
Thursday, May 12, 2005 → by Danieru
So I took down the post.
There were several reasons, the main one being that deep down I am too much of a cynic about everything to be against any specific ignorance. Someone pointed out to me that ignorance is also subjective. I didn't want to end up wallowing in the quagmire of left wing, right wing view discrepancies. I don't go for either camp. I am a central cynic and will forever be that way.
For anyone interested the original Manifesto is still online and the original Bloggers Against Ignorance post can be found here.
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"The new logo is much better, I would suggest you lose the other one altogether.
Here are some specifics I have issues with:
1. Promotion of secularized political ideas - i.e. Stating: 'Bush is doing God's work'
I really don't think saying this phrase is intolerant, as long as the person speaking really believes that. It can make people uncomfortable, but such is the nature of religion.
2. Ignorance of other's belief systems - i.e. Stating: 'Christianity/Islam is the one true religion'
This could be stated in a more positive light. i.e.
All religions, as well as atheism, have valid points and all should be included and accepted as members of the community.
3. Using religion as an excuse - i.e. Stating: 'There is no need for immediate action as Jesus will shortly return', Announcing a 'Holy War' on your enemies
Do you really hear this that often? Wouldn't most people that you are targeting with this campaign already discount anyone who said this?
4. Narrow mindedness on political & religious matters - i.e. Promoting the teaching of only creationism in schools, completely rejecting abortion under any circumstances
This is a big point of disagreement for me. Specifically, I believe that a person's beliefs should effect their views on social policy. Notice I said "beliefs" not "religion". I am by no means a religious man, but I am stridently pro-life. I came to my pro-life views via logic and reason and not by religion. Saying that I think abortion is wrong under any circumstances is not narrow mindedness or religious doctrine, it is simply my position.
5. Spreading hatred of ANY kind - Opinion and belief are one thing, truth and fact another!
No issues with this, but an observation. The "religion" of secularism often imposes its doctrine by beating the heads of its detractors with the stick of "Fighting hate" or "inclusiveness". This behavior is no different from the religious nuts or the idiot skinheads. Since you put out a leftward/antibush position in other areas, I am put off by this based on my experience.
Just to be clear, I think this is worth doing, I am only trying to help you reach my readers as well as other right-center people. It will not be a useful movement on the web if it only targets the left/far left."
Thanks for those, most useful. More comments please...
May 12, 2005 2:03 PM
So, what did it? See a good movie or something? You can't change the world like this. "Bloggers against ignorance" indeed.
May 12, 2005 4:20 PM
So, what did it? See a good movie or something? You can't change the world like this. "Bloggers against ignorance" indeed.
May 12, 2005 4:20 PM
This is FANTASTIC marketing. Plus, a good way to send an FU to the BushFish people.
Here's another idea for you...
If you rotate the symbol 90 degrees to the left, doesn't the BushFish look more like a bomb with Dubya's name on it? If you are going to coopt the symbol, I think you should do something more fun, and obvious. I don't think everyone understands what inverted symbols represent (e.g. your flipped fish, the upside-down cross, etc).
Just my $0.02 worth...
Good luck on the marketing plan.
May 12, 2005 4:35 PM
the logo already looks like a bomb to me.
i'm still battling with my inner voice that says "anti-religion, anti-bush" is better. but i know this will make people avoid the whole point of this (plus its very hypocritical). i just like making fun too much
May 12, 2005 11:42 PM
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